Margaret Schaut

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The Neo Con Heart and Soul of Bush’s Foreign Policy

July 5, 2008 at 9:04 pm · Filed under Politics and tagged: , ,


Well, here it is! Aside from the fact that as Sharanksy defines ‘democracy’ and ‘freedom’ they do NOT correspond with what Americans mean by those words, Pat Buchanan has taken on Sharanksy more or less effectively.

It is absolutely unconscionable that our neo-con foreign policy take its inspiration, direction and advice from a self-proclaimed Zionist with no interest in America’s Constitution.

Adoption of Sharansky’s ideology has been one of the worst political decisions in American history. However, our current government, current ‘representatives’ and virtually every international governance group has blindly accepted his ideals.

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  Marcie Mathews wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm

Anatolay Sharansky is correct in his statements. I agree with him. God Bless him, and God Bless Israel.

There are so many issues at risk in Israel, and the middle east. Thankfully God knows and God has it in His hands.

May the blesssings of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob be magnified in the Blessing God gave to the Jewish Nation when He said:

“I will bless those that bless you, and I will curse those that curse you.”

May the prayers of Isaiah Chapter 62 be a blessing to all those who love Zion.

Marcie Mathews

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  Margaret wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm

I am acquainted with that scripture, Marcie. I’m wondering, is it worth giving up the US Constitution for? Should we give up our sovereignty, our money, our law, in order to take things as far as Israel wants them to go? We should nuke innocent people who have done nothing to us, because Israel- who has nukes of its own- feels threatened? We cannot forget, also, the Beatitudes (Sermon on the Mount) and we cannot forget the Sheep and the Goats. No one who ignores or acts outside of the Will of God will be considered one of his sheep!

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  Anthony wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 9:42 pm

I’m sure we don’t have to give up a single piece of scripture to keep the Constitution. Perhaps we can throw out a hermeneutic, but never scripture.

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  Margaret wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 9:54 pm

Thanks to the wholesale adoption of Sharanksy’s philosophy, our Constitution is GONE in all but the thinnest of threads. It has been STOLEN. Thou Shalt Not Steal is a very important scripture, and applying these very misleading views of Sharansky means that our country has been stolen out from under our feet and we no longer HAVE God-given rights.

The fascism that is coming at us is far more horrible than your television will ever help you to understand or imagine, and it is NEARLY HERE.

Our president, God bless him, has broken his oath of office and broken the laws of our land in order to bring about Sharansky’s vision. What you don’t know is how purposely deceptive it is- meanings of words and phrases are CHANGED to mean something different than YOU think they mean, and this deception is terrible.

We will all see it all too soon. The symptoms are all around us- threatening nuclear war against people who have done nothing to us; the dollar losing its value, inflation taking greater amounts of our money to just get by; american’s losing their homes and jobs without even a little help; agriculture being destroyed or manipulated; citizens being searched, subject to property seizure without warrants; all kinds of things that are just hints of things to come.

Bush adopted Sharansky’s philosophy, and America as we have known and loved her, is almost GONE.

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  Marcie Mathews wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 10:31 pm

I’m not say for Americans to give up our Constitution. I’m just saying that it is important that our country should be very careful not to interfer with Israel. Yes, they may have to stand alone. But they will not be alone. God is still at work in the Jewish Nation.

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  Margaret wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 10:38 pm

Well, its too late, Marcie. Karl Marx was a jew too, and the father of communism, much as Sharanksy is the father of global fascism. We are still having great difficulties with communism in the world- in support of Israel would you have given up the Constitution to become Communist because ‘God is with Israel?’

This is what has happened with a philosophy perhaps even more destructive and evil than Karl Marx and communism. We have given up our Constitution in order to pursue Sharansky’s deceptive global vision; and this is taking down our economy, our position in the world, and even has us threatening to NUKE people who have DONE NOTHING TO US.

Yes, of course God is with Israel, but scripture also tells us that He doesn’t like or agree with everything they do. If He did, there would have been no need for Jesus.

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  Anthony wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 10:47 pm

Is this Sharansky really that powerful? How did that happen, since this is the first I’ve ever heard of him.

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  Marcie Mathews wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 10:51 pm

God also said,

“I am against all the nations”

So to answer your question,

I think I would say that:
If my nation asked me to do something that was against my belief in the Ten commandments of God that I would have to stand on my faith rather than trusting in an instutution made by man.

Remember, God uses the rod of correction to punish nations that go against Him. Israel has seen their full share of God’s fury and wrath. All the nations would benefit from learning from their mistakes.

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  Margaret wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 10:56 pm

Indeed he is that powerful. Read this here https://mschaut.wordpress.com/forced-democratization-foreign-policy/ and follow the links.

Marcie wants to talk about her beliefs instead of the responsibility all nations, and the people in them, have to God.

America was blessed to have been given the Constitution that has enshrined our rights in the very existence of God himself who has provided our inalienable rights and they cannot be taken away.

Our president and government have taken away our rights, have destroyed rule of law and of our Constitution and have done so by adopting the philosophy of a man every bit as dangerous, or perhaps even more so, than Karl Marx. In our day and age, nuclear weapons change EVERYTHING.

Sharansky is a Zionist and a member of government. Bush meets with him BEFORE anyone else in Israel. Bush himself has explained that American foreign policy is based on this man’s ideas.

By destroying our Constitution, we have destroyed the only document in the world that governs people based on God’s laws. Even Israel doesn’t have that.

No wonder the blessing has been taken from our country.

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  Marcie Mathews wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 11:04 pm

Actually the quote is from Isaiah 34:2
The LORD is angry with all nations;
his wrath is upon all their armies.
He will totally destroy them,
he will give them over to slaughter.

My point is that all the hations have failed. God has said in His word what will happen and we best read it.
Jesus said “Watch and pray” I believe what we need to watch is what the Bible said will happen.
Doesn’t anyone read the Bible anymore?

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  Margaret wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 11:07 pm

Of course people are reading the bible! Unfortunately our officials haven’t been applying it in any sense of the word.

Even the ‘Christian’ ones that we elect to do so!

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  Marcie Mathews wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 11:11 pm

My responsibility is to Love the Lord my God with all my heart, mind and soul and my brother as myself. And in that (as a good neighbor) I am the type of citizen the founding fathers wanted to see.

But I do not think the founding fathers would have negated the hope we have in Isaiah 9:6

“For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

That is pure government!

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  Marcie Mathews wrote @ July 7, 2008 at 11:15 pm

Just because I am an American does not mean I cannot also be a Zionist. At least it was a freedom I used to enjoy. Have they changed the laws on that yet?

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  Anthony wrote @ July 8, 2008 at 12:25 am

Regarding the passage found in Isaiah 9:6, this is a reference to Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh. And this reference is a summary of his birth, death, and subsequent reign in the New Jerusalem. The government being on his shoulder may be a veiled reference to salvation and the cross. Or maybe not.

Either way, Isaiah 9:6 does not absolve our role in government while we’re waiting for Jesus to return. In fact, we have an obligation to hold our servant government accountable. If we do not, we are as wicked as they are.

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  Anthony wrote @ July 8, 2008 at 12:46 am

Regarding Sharanksy’s definitions of ‘freedom’ and ‘democracy,’ so far I’m not impressed with him. I trust Pat Buchanan, especially after hearing this Bill Handel interview broadcast on the 4th.

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  Keith Vega wrote @ July 8, 2008 at 11:08 am

When someone is always looking over their shoulder in fear, there is normally a reason…wether it be real or just a guilty conscience. War and conflict are the direct consequences of jacking people around. Can someone answer this for me…why are the Jews always thinking someone is coming to get them? What is going on in the background of their history that warrants that level of fear and paranoia? Please don’t site Hitler & his gang….I don’t believe he was Arabic or Persian. I have never met a single person, who, one day just wakes up and decides to start hating someone (let alone a whole culture…). Is all this “hostility” towards the Jewish people really justified? What is the “REAL” source of it?

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  Marcie Mathews wrote @ July 8, 2008 at 11:28 pm

Keith, you asked, “why are the Jews always thinking someone is coming to get them?”
Personally I believe it is because the Scriptures record in Genesis Satan was told “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed;
he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.” Genesis 3:15
This is the first promise of the Christ. So ever since then, Satan has tried to kill the Chosen People starting with Able, and Satan has used death as his tool ever since. But that’s looking at it from a believers viewpoint.
Satan has tried to kill the Jews because they had the promise of the redeemer and they hold all the promises that God will fulfill.
If you look at history from that viewpoint it’s easy to see why the Jews feel like there’s someone out to get them. So the REAL source of it is: EVIL.

If you honestly read the Bible from beginning to end it’s easy to see it. Jesus said that sin when it is full blown is death.
Choose life, choose Jesus, one of His names is THe Word, yet people don’t know and don’t care what it says.

The contest is between good and evil.

Yes Anthony, we need to be good citizens and vote our conscience and work for a better world while there is oppertunity. Frankly, I’m just too frustrated with the choices left to us on this next election. What’s a person to do?

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  Margaret wrote @ July 9, 2008 at 12:45 am

Firstly, Marcie, pray for our country- there are huge prayer groups and an enormous prayer ‘push’ that all the political evil and corruption be exposed. Secondly, vote third party if we can’t vote for Ron Paul. We must get someone in power who believes in the Constitution and the rule of American law, instead of trading it away for someone else’s values. No one in our country, including the president, has the right to do that! Further, we cannot vote for ‘infanticide Obama’ nor can we vote for ‘Nuke’em McCain’- both being totally unthinkable for any Christian!

Yes, these people mean business and will do anything necessary to take global control. The only one who can really help us now is God. However, He may need to do a serious purification in order to help us, and if this is the case people will be going through a tremendous amount of suffering until it is all over with.

In the meantime, while today is still today, we do what we can in prayer, in activism, in educating those around us.

Yes, Sharansky is extremely dangerous and the fruits of his thought are already manifest! By his influence the president and representatives, our courts, our military, our banks have all THROWN AWAY THE CONSTITUTION AND SET US UP TO BECOME A DICTATORSHIP.

If that isn’t a dangerous influence, and a shocking warning of things to come if this continues, I don’t know what is!

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  Anthony wrote @ July 9, 2008 at 8:44 am

Actually, I’ve come to realize it’s ‘infanticide Bush’ and ‘infanticide McCain’ as well. Both pretend the only thing a President can do is appoint sympathetic supreme court judges when in reality, all this time, he could promote and sign legislation like H. R. 300.

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  Marcie Mathews wrote @ July 9, 2008 at 6:47 pm

Yes Magraget, I do pray for our country and I pray for the Lord’s Will every day while Today is still Today. It is a sad business these days.

Anthony I hate to say it but your comment on Isaiah 9:6 seems like you are dismisive of God’s plan.

You said. ” The government being on his shoulder may be a veiled reference to salvation and the cross. Or maybe not.”

To me your comment of it being a “veiled references ” is itself veiled. I believe the Bible says what it means, and means what it says.

The fact of the matter is that the Lord will indeed someday very soon come into His Kingdom when He calls : TIME.

And that Kingdom will encompass everything we have come to know in this life.

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  Marcie Mathews wrote @ July 10, 2008 at 9:45 pm

In spite of what the world does, God will protect Israel.

Israel will be saved:

Old Testament (there are Many)

Zechariah 12:3

“On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves.”

New Testament (there are Many)

Romans 9:30-33
“What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the “stumbling stone.” As it is written:
“See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall,
and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”

Romans 10:1-4
“ Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.”
Romans 11:1-12

“I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel:”Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”? And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.
“ What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened, as it is written:
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes so that they could not see
and ears so that they could not hear,
to this very day.” And David says:
“May their table become a snare and a trap,
a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
and their backs be bent forever.”
In grafted Branches

Romans 11:11
Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their fullness bring!”

The amazing promises of the Bible are what I hope for

Marcie

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  George wrote @ July 16, 2008 at 12:53 am

This thread has come to my attention through my web-bots…. It is a shame to see Christians preaching pro-war, anti-christian, pro-zionist/communist propaganda. Revelation 2:10 and 3:9 state “those who say they are jews and are not are of the synagogue of Satan!

Our founding fathers warned us of the zionist banks and their corruptive power. For some reason the ADL and AIPAC have more power than the real government of American, we the people! If Israel is our true ally, than why have they carried out numerous attacks against US citizens. Most notable, the attack of the USS Liberty!

Christ says to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, not to protect the evil talmud which the zionist jews live by! Which states:

CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE KILLED BECAUSE THEY ARE TYRANTS

In Zohar (I,25a) it says:

“The People of the Earth are idolaters, and it has been written about them: Let them be wiped off the face of the earth. Destroy the memory of the Amalekites. They are with us still in this Fourth Captivity, namely, the Princes [of Rome] . . . who are really Amalakites.”

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  Margaret wrote @ July 16, 2008 at 1:34 pm

I’m with you on that, George. Scripture even warns us ‘get out of her my people, THAT YOU DO NOT SHARE IN HER SINS.’

That wasn’t a suggestion, but it was a command.

The citizens of the nations, any nation, SHARES in the sins of their country and that includes America.

The fact that we’re supposedly a Christian country makes our liability and sin before God even worse.

Israel has gotten EVERYTHING they need to defend themselves against all enemies, and they’ve gotten it courtesy of the American taxpayer. There is no need for us to invest further in that country’s defense, technology or intervene in their foreign affairs. As long as we act the stooge for anything Israel wants, no matter how damaging it is for America or its citizens, then Israel never needs to take responsibility for itself.

Israel’s covenant with God is being renewed on Rosh Hashanah, where Israel proclaims its God-given responsibility for the world. They bring every soul on earth to Him where He separates them like sheep and goats.

The dreadful sins our country has committed, despite the Constitution, despite international law, and the sins to come, NUKING innocent people, are sins we will ALL SHARE in, when we are in front of God for judgment, unless we’ve done everything possible to stop this.

We must do everything we can to restore our Constitution, elect politicians who will return us to the Constitution; and will hold everyone who has broken the law to the justice demanded. Otherwise all of us will have innocent blood on our hands, not just the perpetrators.

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  George wrote @ July 16, 2008 at 6:38 pm

It behooves us to obey God’s law’s! We are denying
the authority of God by being the savior of israhell. God is the authority of all.If God is real, than we must let God take care of israhell. It is a slap in God’s eye to be the protector of israhell. When this is done all of terrorism
will be done!!! Christ is my savior…Just because I know the truth and other’s refuse to accept God’s will does not make me anti – isreal….. I am pro isreal the real……
isreal…….not israhell…..They deny God’s Sovereignty.
And punish christians in israhell..

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  George wrote @ July 20, 2008 at 3:58 pm

This is not right!!! Humans have rights like anyone else!! Palestinian’s have rights like any other human!!

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  George wrote @ July 20, 2008 at 3:58 pm

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=850_1216570971

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  George wrote @ July 20, 2008 at 4:00 pm
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  Anthony wrote @ July 26, 2008 at 12:45 pm

This article claims Israel is invoking “detente” with Iran: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1004518.html

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  Anthony wrote @ August 10, 2008 at 12:33 am

To me, it’s clear that China passes Sharansky’s Town Square Test then and now. So that’s proof the test is bogus.

Freedom, Sharansky claims, is rooted in the right to dissent, to walk into the town square and declare one’s views without fear of punishment or reprisal.

One person can do this in China. So as long as it’s one-at-a-time, China is free? That’s why the test is bogus.

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  Goerge wrote @ August 20, 2008 at 7:51 pm

ALL THIS BULL ABOUT IRAN IS ALL FAKE!!
LOOK AHMADINJED IS MEETING WITH REAL JEWS!!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=25e_1219272331

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  truthman wrote @ September 3, 2008 at 8:01 pm

u think isreal is our allie…
watch this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407&hl=en

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