Margaret Schaut

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Vampires of Liberty: Two Strategies


Posse Comitatus

When Ron Paul explains to us what we have lost, somehow the truth comes out and people GET IT.

There are two particularly evil developments over the last two different Administrations- Clinton/Clinton and then Bush/Bush, that have run alarm bells among the intelligentsia, and constitutionalists, and SHOULD HAVE for the rest of us.  Only if we get back to a STRICT CONSTITUTIONAL government can we be saved from the fruits of this strategy.

We have lost the Posse Comitatus Act.

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prohibits the US military in any form to act against its citizens unless the citizens Constitutional Rights are being violated by the State they are living in!

The text is as follows:

“20 Stat. L., 145; June 18, 1878

CHAP. 263 – An act making appropriations for the support of the Army for the fiscal year ending June thirtieth, eighteen hundred and seventy-nine, and for other purposes.

SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment.

10 U.S.C. (United States Code) 375

Sec. 375. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel:

The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.

18 U.S.C. 1385: Sec. 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of
Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to
execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

Given that, at the time, one dollar was 1/20 of an ounce of gold, you can see that the financial penalties for ANYONE violating this law were VERY HEAVY. With gold now hitting $1,000 per ounce…

The first real violation of this act was under Richard Nixon, and the Kent State Massacre of 4 students and injury to nine other individuals, who were exercising their rights to freedom of expression. Of course, Nixon and those involved in that never faced justice as outlawed in Posse Comitatus. The work-around was using ‘national guard’ troops instead of the direct military who were, at that time, drafted into the army for the Vietnam illegal quagmire.

Later, under the New World Order Dynasties of Bush/Clinton, a veritable two-pronged strategy of undermining this act began in earnest.

First up was WACO, under the Clinton Administration. There was another out west, and in both cases, people were slaughtered illegally by BATF. No justice was faced in these instances either, and though the public was outraged, Congress never acted to protect the Constitutional Rights or enforce Posse Comitatus.

waco posse comitatus violation

Public apathy ensued due to a few factors. One was the media: a total collapse of journalistic standards that had previously served as a watchdog of Constitutional Rights for the citzenry; and a distancing itself as an entire industry from pursuit of the truth in these specific instances of the violations. The media also went out of its way in distracting the public from these heinous violations of the Constitution. Another major factor in public apathy was the unwillingness of the elected representatives speaking out and demanding justice and enforcement of the law. Evidently they neither knew nor cared about the Constitution.

Once public apathy was confirmed so firmly, the blatant strategies were pursued.

Strategy One: directly gut the Constitution and enact laws that remove citizens rights and grant despotical power to the office of President.

The Prevention of Violence and Homegrown Terrorism Act is only one of many pieces of legislation that are systematically destroying our Constitution and setting us up for a fascist tyranny.

Strategy Two: ‘under the radar’ hire private militaries and security forces that have no obligations to the Constitution.

This law of the Constitution was violated by 32 CFR 501.4 Martial Law

Either strategy enables a dictatorship to ensue, but both together have created a monster that will be impossible, or nearly impossible to stop. It will require vast numbers of Americans taking the types of actions that will be effective, persistent, and apply great pressure to all of our politicians.

The question is, can anyone get off their couches and their ‘news’ addictions long enough to do anything? We’ll see. One way or another, we’ll ALL see the outcome.

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  Vampires of Liberty: Two Strategies wrote @

[…] D. Timothy Whitworth wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerpt When Ron Paul explains to us what we have lost, somehow the truth comes out and people GET IT. There are two particularly evil developments over the last two different Administrations- Clinton/Clinton and then Bush/Bush, that have run alarm bells among the intelligentsia, and constitutionalists, and SHOULD HAVE for the rest of us.  Only if we get back to a STRICT CONSTITUTIONAL government can we be saved from the fruits of this strategy. We have lost the Posse Comitatus Act. The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prohibits the US military in any form to act against its citizens unless the citizens Constitutional Rights are being violated by the State they are living in! The text is as follows: “20 Stat. L., 145; June 18, 1878 CHAP. 263 – An act making appropriations for the support of the Army for the fiscal year ending June thirtieth, eighteen hundred and seventy-nine, and for other purposes. SEC. 15. From […] […]

  Vampires of Liberty: Two Strategies wrote @

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